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21-08-2008, 12:16 PM
When I enter my IP to go to the HTTP web server it goes to the router setup page, is there any way to turn this off, im using a belkin fsd7230-4 wireless G router. any help is appreciated thanks
I'm having the same problem.
When I use [Only Registered And Activated Users Can See Links] I see my site
When I use my IP address on the home network I see my site
I set up port forwarding as instructed on this site and elsewhere on my router (I have the same model or similar as you, I think it's the -4P or something)
and just for good measure I turned my pc's firewall off.
So am I right in thinking I should be able to call up the IP assigned to my house by the ISP with a :80 on the end and should see my site (I've said inbound port 80 should forward to my pc's port 80).
Because it doesn't! I just get the router setup page, as if I'd never added the :80 at all!
Any suggestions?
I'm having exactly the same problem, i've been tweaking things for over 2 hours trying to get it right, and then I found this thread of other people with the exact same problem Undecided
whenever I type in my external ip address, it takes me to the Actiontec configuration, eventhough the web gateway feature is disabled... I don't get it. port 80 and port 443 are routed to my computer (192.168.0.4) where my Apache is up and running... if I type in my local ip address it takes me to my server, but not my external one. Any help GREATLY appreciated =)
How to TEST a web server or FTP server
First you should test whether another computer on your local LAN can log into the server.
Do this by entering the Static IP address of the server in the Address Bar of your web browser (for a web server), or by using an FTP client (for an FTP server).
Use the INTERNAL IP address of the computer the server is running on, the one you've already configured as a STATIC IP address.
This will test whether the server is configured correctly. If you can’t log in locally like this, no one from the Internet is going to be able to log in either.
Once you can log in from your local LAN, most people immediately want to try logging in just like someone out on the Internet would do it, by entering the EXTERNAL IP address of the router into the web browser or FTP client.
And then they freak out because it doesn’t work. If anything, they get the router’s login screen, not the server. And nothing they do to the router or the server makes it work. And they tear their hair out for days, because it SHOULD work, but it doesn’t.
And actually- it WILL NOT work this way.
You CAN NOT test a server by trying to log into the EXTERNAL (or “Public”) IP address (the WAN interface) from a computer that is located on the INTERNAL (or “Private”) side of the router.
The router simply WILL NOT pass the connection attempt through from the Local LAN side OUT to the External WAN side of the router, then BACK IN to the Local LAN side, to the server.
This is called a “loopback” and most of the small routers used for home networks don’t have loopback testing implemented.
Think of it this way- the router is DOING its job. It’s supposed to “route” the connection to its proper destination, and it KNOWS the destination (the server) is on the LOCAL side, so it WON’T route the connection in the wrong direction.
So- how do you test a server..?
For a complete test, you need to test it from OUTSIDE the local network. From somewhere ELSE on the Internet, OUTSIDE the router. From a friend’s house, from your workplace, from a library or an Internet Café. Call a friend and have them do it.
Anywhere that is NOT on your local LAN.
If you still have a "dialup" account with your ISP and a modem attached to a phone line, it should be possible to dialup a connection and access your web or FTP server that way because the dialup connection isn't going through the router.
If you don't still have dialup, there are a few other things you can try:
In the case of a web server, there’s actually a rather clever workaround that will at least indicate whether your web site is visible from outside, and that can be tested from INSIDE your local LAN.
With your normal web browser, go to [Only Registered And Activated Users Can See Links]
Where it says “Translate a Web page”, enter your EXTERNAL IP address, just like anyone on the Internet would to view your web site. This is your router's "WAN" IP address, the one assigned by your ISP.
The languages you choose really don’t matter. Just set them to your own language. Then click on the “Translate” button.
If the port forwarding in your router is working properly, the Bablefish site will display your new web page, loaded directly from your web server. It may not show all the images on your page correctly, but at least you’ll know your router is working properly and other people are likely to see the site correctly.
And for FTP servers, try this site with your WEB BROWSER (NOT an FTP client): [Only Registered And Activated Users Can See Links]
The site is in German, but just fill in the boxes where it says “Login”.
Give it your FTP server's address (which is your router’s EXTERNAL IP address, the WAN IP assigned by your ISP), a valid username and password, then hit the button that says “login”.
(If you’re using a port other than 21, change that in the Port box.)
If the port forwarding in your router is working, you’ll see a text window with your site’s welcome message.
Remember, for a complete test, to see your site as others will from out on the Internet, you need to test it from somewhere outside your router.
But however you do it, you may be pleasantly surprised to find out it’s actually working already..!
I'm having the same problem.
When I use [Only Registered And Activated Users Can See Links] I see my site
When I use my IP address on the home network I see my site
I set up port forwarding as instructed on this site and elsewhere on my router (I have the same model or similar as you, I think it's the -4P or something)
and just for good measure I turned my pc's firewall off.
So am I right in thinking I should be able to call up the IP assigned to my house by the ISP with a :80 on the end and should see my site (I've said inbound port 80 should forward to my pc's port 80).
Because it doesn't! I just get the router setup page, as if I'd never added the :80 at all!
Any suggestions?
I'm having exactly the same problem, i've been tweaking things for over 2 hours trying to get it right, and then I found this thread of other people with the exact same problem Undecided
whenever I type in my external ip address, it takes me to the Actiontec configuration, eventhough the web gateway feature is disabled... I don't get it. port 80 and port 443 are routed to my computer (192.168.0.4) where my Apache is up and running... if I type in my local ip address it takes me to my server, but not my external one. Any help GREATLY appreciated =)
How to TEST a web server or FTP server
First you should test whether another computer on your local LAN can log into the server.
Do this by entering the Static IP address of the server in the Address Bar of your web browser (for a web server), or by using an FTP client (for an FTP server).
Use the INTERNAL IP address of the computer the server is running on, the one you've already configured as a STATIC IP address.
This will test whether the server is configured correctly. If you can’t log in locally like this, no one from the Internet is going to be able to log in either.
Once you can log in from your local LAN, most people immediately want to try logging in just like someone out on the Internet would do it, by entering the EXTERNAL IP address of the router into the web browser or FTP client.
And then they freak out because it doesn’t work. If anything, they get the router’s login screen, not the server. And nothing they do to the router or the server makes it work. And they tear their hair out for days, because it SHOULD work, but it doesn’t.
And actually- it WILL NOT work this way.
You CAN NOT test a server by trying to log into the EXTERNAL (or “Public”) IP address (the WAN interface) from a computer that is located on the INTERNAL (or “Private”) side of the router.
The router simply WILL NOT pass the connection attempt through from the Local LAN side OUT to the External WAN side of the router, then BACK IN to the Local LAN side, to the server.
This is called a “loopback” and most of the small routers used for home networks don’t have loopback testing implemented.
Think of it this way- the router is DOING its job. It’s supposed to “route” the connection to its proper destination, and it KNOWS the destination (the server) is on the LOCAL side, so it WON’T route the connection in the wrong direction.
So- how do you test a server..?
For a complete test, you need to test it from OUTSIDE the local network. From somewhere ELSE on the Internet, OUTSIDE the router. From a friend’s house, from your workplace, from a library or an Internet Café. Call a friend and have them do it.
Anywhere that is NOT on your local LAN.
If you still have a "dialup" account with your ISP and a modem attached to a phone line, it should be possible to dialup a connection and access your web or FTP server that way because the dialup connection isn't going through the router.
If you don't still have dialup, there are a few other things you can try:
In the case of a web server, there’s actually a rather clever workaround that will at least indicate whether your web site is visible from outside, and that can be tested from INSIDE your local LAN.
With your normal web browser, go to [Only Registered And Activated Users Can See Links]
Where it says “Translate a Web page”, enter your EXTERNAL IP address, just like anyone on the Internet would to view your web site. This is your router's "WAN" IP address, the one assigned by your ISP.
The languages you choose really don’t matter. Just set them to your own language. Then click on the “Translate” button.
If the port forwarding in your router is working properly, the Bablefish site will display your new web page, loaded directly from your web server. It may not show all the images on your page correctly, but at least you’ll know your router is working properly and other people are likely to see the site correctly.
And for FTP servers, try this site with your WEB BROWSER (NOT an FTP client): [Only Registered And Activated Users Can See Links]
The site is in German, but just fill in the boxes where it says “Login”.
Give it your FTP server's address (which is your router’s EXTERNAL IP address, the WAN IP assigned by your ISP), a valid username and password, then hit the button that says “login”.
(If you’re using a port other than 21, change that in the Port box.)
If the port forwarding in your router is working, you’ll see a text window with your site’s welcome message.
Remember, for a complete test, to see your site as others will from out on the Internet, you need to test it from somewhere outside your router.
But however you do it, you may be pleasantly surprised to find out it’s actually working already..!